Hi! You wrote: > Hello from Sunny South Africa, > What experiences have you had with clip type master link chains? Don't even think about it - I have lost Clips on weaker bikes. - Phil -- --- http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~up1j - fon: +49-721/98121-36 fax: -35 People think I'm insane because I am growning all the time. (Black Sabbath)