Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:52:01 +0200
- Message No. 5044
From: =?iso-8859-9?Q?bo=F0a=E7=20erkan=26t=FClay=20=F6zyurt?= erkan
Subject: Re: Brits to 7th ATiC meeting
Hi Phoebus,
First of all I want to apologize to the people of the @ list, because
this mail does not have anthing to do with the list. And I must add that
I am not a man who has any problems with the Greek people, but there are
a lot of people, mostly politicians, like that.
Phoebus,
I think you a little bit misunderstood the subject, my friend. First of
all I am grounding my thoughts that you are talking about my country,
Turkey and the 'baby killer' Abdullah Öcalan. There can be no doubt that
he is a terrorist. I am sure you will be thinking the same thing if you
know the subject as well as I do, or if you were living in my country.
He is the basic reason of the death of 30.000 ( THIRTY THOUSAND )
people. Most of these people are Kurdish people. If you come to Turkey,
we can together travel to Eastern Turkey together and you will easily
see that no one is interested in which language someone is speaking,
learning. This hypothesis is, I am afraid, totally wrong. Kurdish people
living here in Turkey have absolutely the same rights I have. I can make
you speak to several Kurdish friends of me and I know that they will say
the same thing to you. Do you know that the president of the parliament
at the moment is Kurdish.
I am sure tht %80 of Turkeys inhabitants want Abduallah Öcalan to be
hanged, but I think this will be a very simple punishment for him. I had
my military service at Erzurum, a city at the eastern Turkey. We were
making scheduled visits to the families of soldiers who died at this war
with the PKK, and I witnessed the enormous pain they feel for the loss
of their children. I don't know whether you have children or not but I
have a son and I can understand how they feel. One of the mothers was
very old. Her 'lost' son was at my age and at the same rank with me. He
thought I am his son and started crying in an instant when she saw me.
Can you imagine how I felt? It was the worst moment in my life. I still
can not the families' pain after 4 years. And how can you explain
killing babies who are 30 (THIRTY!!) days old. And these were the
Kurdish babies. I am sure you have seen the photographs, if you didn't I
can send you some. How can someone kill a baby? What can be a reason for
this kind of murder?
And do you know that while the decieved young people are trying to
survive in the mountains all orund winter, this baby killer was having a
luxurious life in his quarters? Can you understand a 5 year old childs
feelings whose father was killed at the same day he was born, just
because he was a soldier. Do you know that I lost two close friends in
that meaningless war. I know I am a bit emotional, but this is the bare
truth. Can you imagine the pain of the families of 30.000 people both
Turkish and Kurdish. This was a very sad experience for my country. I am
sure all of this was pre-planned. I don't want to continue too long, but
I can give you thousands of examples. There is no identity crisis for
the Kurdish people in my country. At least the %30 of the people living
here in Ankara is Kurdish, and they do not any problems. I know that
this is the same for other cities.
Do you know how many people they poisioned with the heroin they trade at
Europe. It is much more than you could possibly imagine.
I dont want to offend anybody, but can you tell me what did England do
to IRA, or Spain to Bask people, or did we react to some of USA's
movements aganist terrorist countries! I think it is just the same thing
several countries do to those kind of activities. I did't even hit to
anybody in my life, I am totallly at the side of peace, so I think that
burning anywhere for any reason can be JUSTIFIED.
Dear Phoebus,
I am sure you don't have any problem with the Turkish people, just as I
don't have any bad thoughts about your country. But this PKK business is
very special for my country and it is our own mistake not to explain the
subject and its special conditions to the world as good as it should be.
I want to repeat oncemore, Kurds can speak their language in my country,
they can learn it, I don't know anybody put into jail because s/he spoke
his or her language.
I want to apologize all of you for mailing this. I know I sound a bit
emotional but I am sure you would react the same way if you have the
same experiences.
Apologies...
Atic #336
Bogac Erkan
Phoebus Katsanos wrote:
>
> Patrick Feeney wrote:
> >
> > Failte,
> > It is good to see that some people in the
> > ATIC are not just foreign names from foreign places, but that they have
> > a feeling of their own identity, and are proud of it.
>
> I know I will probably be flamed by some for this but the subject seems
> to just pop up here,
> and I can't resist...
>
> Imagine not having the right to speak you language, teach or learn it in
> a school.
> If you tried to, you would be jailed, in a jail where 2 27 year old men
> died
> of "heart attack" in the same night!
> Some of us would bare arms for such a reason.
> And then the "civilized" world would call us terrorists.
> And then your leader put in the prementioned jail...
>
> I guess you would be justified to burn up some embassies...
>
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