Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:42:47 +0100
- Message No. 3886
From: VIPER-1@universal.nl (Fels R. Th.B.)
Subject: AW: Addicted to power
Hello there,
I've read in many many mails, that the @ is a quite perfect balanced bike
concerning the engine setup and it is nearly impossible to enhance power
with simple changes to nozzles, air filters and exaust and such stuff. In
most cases the bike consumes more and performes less after the changes
(this applies also to nearly all third party exhausts). You have to change
parts of the engine (crankshaft etc.) to enhance power and even then there
are only a few HP to be found and this is expensive and nobody guarantees
for promised results. (Raymond will tell something else... ;-)
>a.) much fun on experimenting
>b.) lots of experience
>c.) +2 or +3 hp :-))))
IMHO you do not notice 3 or 3 HP more in real life. And in germany the bike
becomes illegal to operate and in case of an accident you have to pay the
damage by yourself, if illegal modifications are discovered (could be
painful if lifelong support for heavy injured persons have to be paid). I
would never do such things.
My conclusion is: People addicted to power should change the bike
(TDM850/BMW R1100GS/HONDA XLV1000 (soon to come)).
take care - Marcello.
Marcello, you are completely right when you say that with some changes on the carburators you can't get more power.
But I haven't said that with modifications (as I did) you get these HP's.
To get more HP's you can do several things (pistons, compression etc) and they are all expensive.
The horsepower you can gain is as you say nearly not noticable. Only above the 6000rpm you can feel a little difference.
I only say that you can get more Torque with the modifications I did. I personaly don't care about the Horsepower because you 'only' need it on the highway on topspeed.
Torque on the other hand is what you use evertime you accelerate out of a corner.
The bike doesn't have to consume more if people do changes, because if they do it right, the efficiency of the engine increases also.
The changes I told about also take away some restrictions on the bike that are there because of some stupid laws. The law thinks about new rules - the manufacturer of a bike puts restrictions on the bike - the engine doesn't run as smooth and beautifull as before - and the customer has a bike that can run better.
Normaly people don't notice it because they don't know how it can be....
But when you have riden a bike with modifications, which in my case only cost about 1000 Gld (including the exhaust) for other bikers, and you switch to a standard bike you realy notice. When I brought back my last modified bike and took home the new one, I noticed it and the first thing I did after 1000km was changing the stuff.
About your last sentence:
My friend drives a TDM 850. When it comes to accelerate from 0 to ... he looses.
So next time you can lett the TDM away :-)
When it comes to a BMW, I have never had a change to ride against one. They are not common around here.
Greetings from The Netherlands,
Raymond Fels.
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