Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:54:15 +0000 - Message No. 4010
From: Philippe.POUSSIER@st.com

Subject: Varadero (continued)


     Sorry just a problem with my last message.
     
     Hi folks !!
     
     At least today, after all this discussions 'bout the new @, i've seen 
     the first photo (hope it is not a drawing ;) of the brand new V1000 
     honda.
     But i'm not really agree with people who start to reproach to Honda 
     that this bike is not an @.
     Ok Ok, i'm not going to discuss with super specialists who knows the @ 
     as if they were born with because of course there IS a difference.
     I have not a lot of pics and details for the moment (asking for other 
     if somebody got) but look at this bike then take the @, add some 21th 
     century brand new design and some new colors and what will you see ???
     
     Ok i'm also an @ lover, ok i saw that this bike is classified with 
     Tourer ones on this F... slow web site but anyway : look at the shape, 
     everything is the same.
     Ok, wheels have changed (don't like new ones...) but for me it's 
     nothing more but a big redesigned new @. 
     
     For me Honda's right on target : what is the main use for AT for most 
     of users ? I first wanted to buy a Supersport and i was not really 
     keen on trails but i felt in love with this bike because she (not it) 
     can do everything you want from highways to Offroad with such a 
     pleasure that you can't find on any other bike ! Especially when 
     riding on some moutain roads !! Ok I confess that i'm not an offroad 
     specialist with my @. So for these reasons, when i look at my use, my 
     expectations for "the new @" : a bit more power, more torque ;);), if 
     possible a much more confortable saddle ;);), and still the same ease 
     in handling, this bike (XL1000V) look like a good "bigger sister" for 
     our @ : 94 HP, a bit lighter (with a bigger engine), more torque, 
     bigger tires (150 and 110) and in a overall view, the same shape (i 
     like these 2 exhausts). So Ok, it's also sad for me not to see written 
     Africa twin on the sides but...must we, for this, throw away this bike 
     directly to the bin ??? It's not self evident for me but i would enjoy 
     to have all your advices and try to understand why you think this bike 
     is so far from our loved one...
     
     Waiting your answer, and be patient on the site and you'll see it, 
     likes or not...
     
     See ya
     
     Philippe
     
     
     
     
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     Subject: Re: (XRV) Re: HONDA-NEWS
     Author:  micha (micha@suburbia.isd.uni-stuttgart.de) at internet
     Date:    16/09/98 07:08
     
     
     Hi all !
     
     On Tue, 15 Sep 1998, Laszlo Koller wrote:
     
     > It is not an AT.
     > Honda's newest is the XL 1000v - Vanadero.
     
     Allow me some words of smile :-)))))))))))
     Nearly 2 years ATiCs were discussing about a new Africa Twin. They 
     were thinking about pro's and con's of the new model, were talking 
     about so called "photos" in so called "motorcycle magazines", had 
     "very" special information from the their "very special" dealer and 
     some dealers even offered to order the bike!
     
     No we can see: The new XL1000V is not an AT, it is even ranked as a 
     tourer on Honda's pages. I am happy that I stayed always secptical
     towards all the news :-)))
     
     However, thanks to all of you for the phantastic input, lots of 
     pictures and great discussions. Lets wait for another few months. The 
     discussion is open again :-)))
     
     Greets,         --- Micha ---
     
     P.S.: I think you agree if the Vanadero is not a topic to be
     mentioned on the ATiC pages.
     
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