Sat Nov 2 19:10:08 1996 - Message No. 136
From: Michael Dipper

Subject: new topic? information about tour-planing


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hello at-riders!

i´m sitting here at the desk and planing my bike-tours i look forward for 
next year.

therefor i got an idea-flash:

our communication of the XRV-list about technical problems, hints, etc.
is working quite succsessfully, but what about the impulses and 
brainstorming, etc. of our common hobby: driving bike in foreign contries 
and unknown regions?

what´s your opinion (esp. dear michael d.)to create a new topic on "our" 
XRV-list: for ex: "tour-links", "tour-helps", "tour-reports" or "important 
tour tips" or so....
or: at least posting experiences via mail to all other..

okay, i´ve just read the general rules in the list:
it´s not intended to publish those topics (by the time)but what about...?

just now at the the "unfriendly-bike-season" there would be (i can 
imagine)time and entertainment to plan the bike tours for next year.
and therefore we could collect and distribute our expiriences.

i don´t intend to publish a huge (too detailed) report about our 
bike-tours: 
for example (negative example!!) the nice flowers, the fauna and flora in 
the netherlands..(in fact it´s really nice)
or (negative example) the great wiener-schnitzl in austrian restaurants...
(in fact they´re really great)
or historical details!!

i think you know what i mean:

just giving hints to each other for planing a bike-tour: 
for ex: tschechien (i´ve been there last weekend)

one day tour in west-tschechien: (about 230km)

starting point: cheb (eger) many small seas, nice to go swimming in summer
(cheb:nice old city with castle)

after 42km (direction north-east) karlovy vary (karlsbad): old cure-city 
(kur-ort)
after 46km (direction south) marianske lazne (marienbad)old cure-city
after about 100km (direction south) bohemian forrest, with small (sometimes 
non-asphalted!) roads, nice typical tschechisch cities: sussice, wimperek, 
big lake (moldau-stausee, good for swimming, surfing(for rent!), 
boating(for rent!) and camping (low standard!! but extremly cheap)
after 30km (direction north) krumlov (krummau): old castle, very nice!!!

general informations:
off-roading possible (sometimes necessary!!)
eating+drinking, bed and breakfast very, very cheap!
typical and natural region
no top acts!
beware of radar-controls !! (very ex!!)
beware of bad petrol!!!
take care of your bike in the bigger cities (at night!!)

okay: that would be my proposal about....."tour-links"

please tell me your (critical)opinion about it.
forgetting it, or more details / less details aso.

now, i´m planing a tour to the mont chaberton (france).
does anybody have experiences with it?
links, tips and tricks?
is it legal to go up there, i´ve heard about helicopter-police.
closed "roads" on saturdays and sundays....
perhaps someone (for ex. italian or french) can help me?

greetings to your ats!
(mine is allready sleeping and dreaming of the next season)

peter aus regensburg (nördlichster punkt der donau)





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