Tue Oct 15 12:38:09 1996 - Message No. 81
From: 94104032@fhs-hagenberg.ac.at (Achim Muehlberger)

Subject: Re: common @ problems


Hi folks,

I just wanted to state "my private opinion" about Thomas'.

Of course everyone should have his own opinion, and I'm very happy that:
a)      Everyone says his opinion, and is not hiding it
b)      We have our mailing list to discuss about that

>1-st:   the publication "Motorrad" is something like BILD-Zeitung
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   for me. I think that everybody in Europe knows, that BILD
>        is one of the most sold, big sized infomation paper. I use
>        this definition in order to avoid to say newspaper.
>        The decoding of BILD yields: Bullshit Information at
>        Low-Density.

In my opinion "Motorrad" is NOT like the BILD-Zeitung, because sometimes=20
they have really good tests in it (e.g. Textil-clothes-test, helmet-test,=
 ...)

>2-nd:   giving information to others always requires the total agree-
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   of the author. Upon this, the author takes over a certain=
 amount
>        of responsibility. The tips can't be sold out at the current
>        state of the art. They had to be refined and invetigated more
>        exactly. And who cares for the (c) ?

I don't think that the tips we would publish deal with any copyright (except=
=20
the trip-master-modification). About the responsibility: nobody MUST do any=
=20
modification; if you take a look at Micha's and Phil's Homepages, you will=
=20
see that they state there: "Modification on your own risc"!!
And I don't think that anyone who posted a tip or trick on this list wants=
=20
to keep his knowledge himself - otherwise he wouldn't have posted it ...

>3-rd:   Isn't it more exiting to find those tricky pages that deal with
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   items concering our beloved bike ;-) As an example: on=
 the Ofen-
>        Pass (in Switzerland) I meet another @-Biker. I told him about
>        our meeting and ... . But what was the final result ? Farewell
>        and have a nice day :=3D no interest :-((

I also experienced that - but it doesn't affect me. I always try to be as=20
tolerant as possible to other bikers - if they are internet-bikers or not.
I don't think that everyone will be interested in our topics, but take a=20
look at Marco & J=F6rg: J=F6rg simply talked to Marco on the street on he=
 joined=20
the meeting - so there are not only negative examples.
       =20
>4-th:   At the moment the internet is growing. Also the number of par-
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   ticipants on meetings is growing. If we make the step to=
 the
>        outer world, a result of that could be an increasing number of
>        persons that join our meetings. But this could have consequences
>        we do not think about, at the moment. Thus, be patient. Maybe
>        you're happy with number of 10-20 Bikers at a meeting. Just in
>        2 weeks there will be a meeting in Switzerland. It's called
>        SW-II (South-West  2nd Meeting). Marc Luethi - isn't he an
>        @-Biker :))) - is the main organisator. Asides he's an @-Biker,
>        he's also member of "rrr" (sorry, no decoding allowed). He
>        started to shout out loud "Everybody should come to the SW-II".
>        And the result of this ! Marc says : "Stop! Stop! No more
>        registrations!". At the moment 40 people will join the meeting
>        and about 15 are on the waiting-list.
>        Think about this. Marc likes to invite all, but he says, that it
>        would be a major management problem to him, to have more than 40
>        poeple in Rheinach.

What I wanted to do with publishing our tips & tricks in "Motorrad" was NOT=
=20
to write in there: "Hey, the next meeting is in ..., all @ riders should=20
come"!!!
I just wanted to give information and knowledge to other bikers; I'm always=
=20
very happy when I read a tip in a paper that helps me!
MAYBE we could post our URL so that interested bikers can take a look at;=20
the ones that aren't interested either will take no look at all or take a=20
look and forget the pages. And don't think that every reader of "Motorrad"=
=20
has an internet-access ...

>5-th:   Problems, that arn't problems :-( I think that the nervous be-
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   haviour of old tires isn't a problem. It's a matter of=
 time.
>        You must live with the fact, that your tire looses his shape
>        after a certain number of miles. In the beginning the shape
>        is near-round. Depending on the kind of usage the shape
>        changes from near-round to flat. Now, consider you are
>        driving on flat road with a so called flat-shaped tire, it
>        is obvious, that this could not be a nice ride. Or ?
>        This could be prooved by the next example. You have a new
>        tire and you drive on an old worn and torn road. Is it a
>        stable driving there ? No !
>
>6-th:   to put more pressure in the front tyre is no tip. This is so
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   old that it is no tip.

Sorry for my misinformation:
a)      I thought the nervous behaviour of the bike is @ specific -=20
        with my NX 500 i didn't experience that ...

b)      The tip with more pressure was new for me - so I thought about it as=
 tip

>                           B) Take a decision about the foundation of
>                              a national or international Africa Twin
>                              Club  o r   n o t.

We always said that we don't like to found a club - there is no problem in=
=20
my opinion in giving tips without being a club.


Finally, I would like to mention one thing:
The tolerance of the bikers isn't quite increasing out there - so in my=20
opinion it is not good if we, as internet bikers, as subgroup and as members=
=20
of a tolerant net, aren't tolerant too.
I always try to inform @ riders I meet about our pages - if they are=20
interested, we will meet them in the net some day. If they are not=20
interested, I talked 5 minutes for nothing ...


greetings,

Achim Muehlberger


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