Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:16:42 +0200 - Message No. 4878
From: Aziz OZMINE

Subject: FW: Eastern Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, India


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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Aziz OZMINE=20
> Sent:	26 Ocak 1999 Sal=FD 10:32
> To:	'Gerd Soldanski'
> Subject:	RE: (XRV) Eastern Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, India
>=20
> Hallo Gerd,
>=20
> 1. My first name is Aziz, that is right.
>=20
> 2. Iran is a very difficult country in that respect, but try to get =
some
> more days from the Embassy anyway. Try to speak directly to the =
Embassador
> or write a letter to him to explain how difficult it would be to =
cross the
> country with bikes in 3 days and so. They can say "then do not go =
through
> Iran" but you never forgive. You know, in the eastern countries there =
are
> rules but one can go around those rules with correct  behaviour. With =
some
> good words and sympathy it can get better. If these do not work then =
try
> on the border (or in the country) to lengthen the transit visa =
period.
> Iran is indeed a country that must be seen in detail. You may buy a =
few
> small hand lamps, chewing gums, pens, tape cassettes (especially of
> "Ibrahim Tatlises" , a famous Turkish singer) to open some 'closed =
doors'.
>=20
> 3.I do not think that you can find proper tires in Pakistan but this =
shoud
> be proved. A lot of people are riding motorbikes in Pakistan but how =
about
> Japanese bikes and spare parts, that I do not know. Iran could be a
> possible place to buy tires but again I am not sure. I saw a lot of =
sports
> bikes in Iran but no enduro.
>=20
> The last point where you can buy tires in Turkey is unfortunately =
Ankara
> where some distributors exist. A non existing tire comes from =
Istanbul in
> 1-2 days. Metzeler, Pirelli, Continental  can be found in Turkey. You =
may
> pay max. 15-20 USD more per tire in Turkey.=20
>=20
> A few minutes ago, I phoned to my friend Emre Esmer who is the only =
Honda
> dealer in Ankara and he told me that he can help to find tires for =
you. I
> first thougt that I may send the tires which you buy here in Turkey =
to you
> to Pakistan but I learned that this is a very unsafe way. I am afraid =
that
> you will have to carry your tires with you.
>=20
> Best regards. Bye. AzOz
>=20
> =20
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Gerd Soldanski [SMTP:gerdh@eikon.tum.de]
> Sent:	21 Ocak 1999 Per=FEembe 15:44
> To:	Aziz OZMINE
> Subject:	Re: (XRV) Eastern Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, India
>=20
> Hi Aziz!
> =20
> Hopefully my choice was right and your first name is Aziz. Otherwise =
I
> apologize... I do not know much about Turkish names.
> =20
> First of all, thank you very much for your mail. Obviously, not many
> people are familiar with these countries. I did not get that many =
replies.
> But anyway, it's great to have a contact to Ancara.
> =20
> In the meantime, we did not much more planning. We're just applying =
for
> visas for Iran and Pakistan. Pakistan should be no problem, but the
> Iranian embassy won't give us more than a 3-day transit-visa. That =
will be
> a hard ride...
> =20
> I have got a more specific question: As we will ride quite many
> kilometres, we're thinking about taking a spare set of tyres with us. =
But
> that would be not very comfortable... What do you think, which is the =
most
> eastern place where we could get tyres during our trip? Best of all =
would
> be to get tyres in Pakistan (probably impossible?). But if we could =
get
> them in Eastern Turkey, it would be O.K., too. What do you think?=20
> =20
> And how much do you pay in Turkey for a set of tyres?
> =20
> So far, I thank you very much for your time! Maybe, we meet each =
other
> soon...
> =20
> Cheers,
> =20
> Gerd
> =20
> =20
> P.S. Sorry for the delayed answer...
>=20
> ----------------------------------------
> Gerd Soldanski  -  gerd.soldanski@gmx.net =

> -  +49-89-304948
>=20
> 	Hi Gerd,
>=20
> 	I am from Turkey and a member of the XRV list (although I do not
> have an AT yet but for some reason I can not send my messages to the
> list.). I have only been in Iran but not with a motorbike. So I can =
not
> give specific information for a motorbike trip at least for Iran. But =
a
> friend of mine has made a motorbike trip from Istanbul to Kathmandu =
with a
> BMW R80GS and I will try to get more info from him for you.=20
>=20
> 	But for the part of your trip in Turkey, I may give some valuable
> information and may accompany you in and around Ankara and give any =
help
> which I can. I have to go out right now. Let's keep communicating. I =
will
> be back on Monday. Bye.=20
>=20
> 	AzOz=20
>=20
> 		-----Original Message-----=20
> 	From:   Gerd Soldanski [SMTP:gerdh@eikon.tum.de]=20
> 	Sent:   Friday, January 08, 1999 2:11 PM=20
> 	To:     Africa Twin Mailing List=20
> 	Subject:        (XRV) Eastern Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, India=20
>=20
> 		Hi all!=20
>=20
> 		I am planning a trip to Eastern Turkey, Iran, Pakistan and
> maybe India.=20
> 	Two guys, two Africa Twins.=20
>=20
> 		Has anybody of you recently been in that region?=20
> 	Any hints/comments related to a trip to these countries concerning=20
> 	- time to go=20
> 	- shipping the motor-cycle back from any of these countries,=20
> 	- safety=20
> 	- "dos and don'ts",=20
> 	- whatever?=20
>=20
> 		Many Thanx,=20
>=20
> 		Gerd=20
>=20
> 		----------------------------------------=20
> 	Gerd Soldanski  -  gerdh@eikon.tum.de  -  +49-89-304948=20
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FW: (XRV) Eastern Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, India




-----Original Message-----
From:   Aziz OZMINE
Sent:   26 Ocak 1999 Sal=FD 10:32
To:     'Gerd Soldanski'
Subject:        = RE: (XRV) Eastern Turkey, Iran, = Pakistan, India

Hallo = Gerd,

1. My first name = is Aziz, that is right.

2. Iran is a = very difficult country in that respect, but try to get some more days = from the Embassy anyway. Try to speak directly to the Embassador or = write a letter to him to explain how difficult it would be to cross the = country with bikes in 3 days and so. They can say "then do not go = through Iran" but you never forgive. You know, in the eastern = countries there are rules but one can go around those rules with = correct  behaviour. With some good words and sympathy it can get = better. If these do not work then try on the border (or in the country) = to lengthen the transit visa period. Iran is indeed a country that must = be seen in detail. You may buy a few small hand lamps, chewing gums, = pens, tape cassettes (especially of "Ibrahim Tatlises" , a = famous Turkish singer) to open some 'closed doors'.

3.I do not think = that you can find proper tires in Pakistan but this shoud be proved. A = lot of people are riding motorbikes in Pakistan but how about Japanese = bikes and spare parts, that I do not know. Iran could be a possible = place to buy tires but again I am not sure. I saw a lot of sports bikes = in Iran but no enduro.

The last point = where you can buy tires in Turkey is unfortunately Ankara where some = distributors exist. A non existing tire comes from Istanbul in 1-2 = days. Metzeler, Pirelli, Continental  can be found in Turkey. You = may pay max. 15-20 USD more per tire in Turkey.

A few minutes = ago, I phoned to my friend Emre Esmer who is the only Honda dealer in = Ankara and he told me that he can help to find tires for you. I first = thougt that I may send the tires which you buy here in Turkey to you to = Pakistan but I learned that this is a very unsafe way. I am afraid that = you will have to carry your tires with you.

Best regards. = Bye. AzOz

 

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