Thu, 14 May 1998 20:08:25 +0100 - Message No. 3048
From: VIPER-1@universal.nl (Fels R. Th.B.)

Subject: AW: 40+ mails a day enough ?


Hello there,

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Van: 	Michael Dipper
Verzonden: 	donderdag 14 mei 1998 17:10
Aan: 	xrv@maulaf.isd.uni-stuttgart.de
Onderwerp: 	(XRV) 40+ mails a day enough ?

Hi all !

Well, looking through my server logs shows me about 40 Mails a day on the
list during the last weeks.  With approx. 500 readers these are around
20.000 Mails per day (+ failures, warnings, etc. ...) flowing through the
server. 

I don't want to do any censorship here, but - besides the fact that the
server load is getting incredibly high - don't you think the mailinglist
is getting uninteresting when a normal "working" man doesn't have any
chance to fully read it during his day? At least I got some more or less
angry unsubscriptions saying that in the last days. So I don't want to
critize any of you here, but I would invite you to think about: 

* Topics discussed once more and more and more ....
* Senseless, for a mailinglist unsuitable private topics
* Topics treated in the FAQ/Database !

and so on ... I hope you understand what I mean. Just a bit more patience
and quality and all of us have more fun while reading ! 

Greets,

--- Micha ---       * AT ready for Greece *

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Our Micha is right.
Oke, I sometimes also send messages that are big or that maybe doesn't belong in the list, but here is my opinion about this:


The messages we are receiving do have something to do with the Twin. That's al right !
The messages do grow sometimes and then take up more time to download them. This is not so right !
The people with a fast connection don't bother about it, but what about the people with a slower connection ?? 
And think of the people with limited mailboxes.... 
So I think that we should not watch (and condemn) the amount of mails, but the size of the mails.

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Sometimes I receive mail and when I open it, there are only two attached files. One of them is for example written with wordpad and the other is html.
So I have one mail, and two files.
The entire mail is 6 Kb,
The textfile is 470 bytes,
The html is 2.16 Kb.
An empty mail is 1 Kb.
The information of the textfile put into an normal mail makes 2 Kb.
So why do some people do it this way ?? (I don't blame here, but I realy don't understand this)
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The answering of a mail can be done in a different way:
Try to shorten the orriginal mail as much as possible.
The inclosed mail above will take about 3Kb.....
And because some people have beautifull artistic signatures , which thus will be repeated, the mails grow.
As an example:
A few weeks ago I send in a mail with a whishlist on it. It contained 4Kb of 'information'.
It was answered by Arne Lindgren. Arne did add only 1 Kb to it. So his message was verry short but my mail made his mail grow an extra 6Kb.
I deffinitly do not blame Arne here, but I want to give an example and this one is quit recent.
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So the purport here is:
Do not hessitate to tell everyone something. Your mail can be of any use in any time.
But do watch the size a little bit.











Once more, I realy do not want to blame someone or condemn someone for what he says and writes. (Isn't this is called freedom of speech ?)
I do know that I also participate in the above mentioned cases.
But I wrote this because Micha tries to warn us for a less interesting mailinglist, and the possibility that people unsubscribe this list.
And that's something nobody wants.
Or am I wrong....

I did the same with a few other lists for the same reason, and one of them was the Transalp list.



Greetings from The Netherlands,
Raymond Fels.







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