Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:12:59 +0200 - Message No. 4105
From: "Jorn Ronnow"

Subject: RE: Pose Value


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    From:  pure@dircon.co.uk


    So Jorn is of the opinion that a SuperMoto has no use what so ever, 'for
posing not driving'. Of course there is no posing value in the presence of a
larger than life Desert Rally Replica at all is there?...........bollocks,
get real.
    Of course there is posing value in a rally replica! However, it's
purpose built for driving and it has a driving value that's far greater than
the posing value.
    As for 'not driving' .....My KTM Duke comes better sorted out 'off the
shelf' than a lot of other motorcycles I can think of.  [snip] That includes
embarassing the crap out of a lot of larger capacity 'sports' bikes.
    I can say the same for my XR600, no problem to outrun large capacity
sports bikes on twisty roads. But that's not because some strange  phenomena
makes a high center of gravity work to your advantage - it's just a question
of total weight. Most (if not all) supermotos are small and have a low
weight. Most sports bikes are large and weigh a lot. A sports bike with the
same weight as a supermoto, like a Supermono, NSR 250 (street version) or
RGV 250, would leave the XR as well as the KTM far behind.
    So, what can the Varadero offer? The heavy weight of a large sports bike
combined with the high center of gravity of an offroader? It's probably a
great tourer, but I doubt that it can beat a K1100LT or an R1100RT. As a
city bike, my guess is that you'd prefer the Duke to it.
    BTW, if you ever find yourself in Sweden, I'll show you some roads that
might inspire you to a Richard Gloucester travesty: 'A 21" wheel, a 21"
wheel, my kingdom for a 21" wheel!' :-)


    Keep sliding
    -Jorn



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-----Original Message-----
From:  pure@dircon.co.uk

So=20 Jorn is of the opinion that a SuperMoto has no use what so ever, = 'for=20 posing not driving'. Of course there is no posing value in the = presence=20 of a larger than life Desert Rally Replica at all is=20 there?...........bollocks, get real.   Of course=20 there is posing value in a rally replica! However, it's purpose = built for=20 driving and it has a driving value that's far greater than the = posing=20 value. As=20 for 'not driving' .....My KTM Duke comes better sorted out = 'off the=20 shelf' than a lot of other motorcycles I can think of. =20 [snip] That includes embarassing the crap out of a lot = of=20 larger capacity 'sports' bikes.  I can say the=20 same for my XR600, no problem to outrun large capacity sports bikes = on=20 twisty roads. But that's not because some strange  = phenomena=20 makes a high center of gravity work to your advantage - it's just a = question=20 of total weight. Most (if not all) supermotos are small and have a = low=20 weight. Most sports bikes are large and weigh a lot. A sports bike = with the=20 same weight as a supermoto, like a Supermono, NSR 250 (street = version) or=20 RGV 250, would leave the XR as well as the KTM far=20 behind. So, what can=20 the Varadero offer? The heavy weight of a large sports bike combined = with=20 the high center of gravity of an offroader? It's probably a great = tourer,=20 but I doubt that it can beat a K1100LT or an R1100RT. As a city = bike, my=20 guess is that you'd prefer the Duke to = it. BTW, if you=20 ever find yourself in Sweden, I'll show you some roads that might = inspire=20 you to a Richard Gloucester travesty: 'A 21" wheel, a 21" = wheel,=20 my kingdom for a 21" wheel!' :-)

Keep=20 sliding
-Jorn

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